Comments on: Workshop: Basic music streaming in Second Life

By: zOnk

zOnk — Fri, 01 May 2009 21:41:47 +0000

Purchased Music vs Licensed.

When I DJ’d at nightclubs back in college, 90% of my records were supplied (free) through my local record distrubutor/promotor — who were using the “night club” as a way to introduce music to new listeners and expand record sales. This process worked for everyone. The record company supplied music to the Entertaiment Venue who paid the ASCAP/BMI fees. The Venue drew customers by playing music that drew and audience and that audience bought drinks at the establishment and a portion went on to purchase the music they heard. The artist received money from the recording label, the venue, and record purchases from the audience.

The big difference now is “streaming DJs” also pay for all the music they stream.

The DJ pays for the music, pays to stream it, pays royalties on top of that.

Everyone seems to “win” in this business model expect the DJ. Seems that we should revisit the legality of “payola”. You want me to play it so you sell it? Pay me instead Mr Record Promoter instead.

By: zOnk

zOnk — Fri, 01 May 2009 21:23:47 +0000

With regard to the legalities of “streams” I understand that royalties should be paid by a “BUSINESS” who uses music attract an audience they profit on by selling them products, services or advertising “air time.”

However, If I choose to play music that I purchased for the listening enjoyment of my friends in my home, virtual home etc., that is entertainment, not profiteering.

Running a stream into a private SL residence should in no way require the need to pay licensing fees and royalties — and the respective legislation needs to address this concern and where the line of distinction between business and personal entertainment exists.

By: SaveNetRadio

SaveNetRadio — Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:16:10 +0000

It’s a common misconception that as long as the stream host is paid, your st ream is legal. Royalties MUST be paid on these streams. The laws concerning royalty payments are different depending on the country where you originate the stream (not the stream host). All internet streaming requires some sort of licensing. If you’re not paying royalties on the music you play, then you are part of the problem for the rest of us who are doing it legally.

Thanks

By: Jancis

Jancis — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:25:08 +0000

i have the same system back at my home. i have a linux router and icecast set up.. i broadcast from windows/traktor to icecast and then to sl.. but unfortunaty my other pc (linux) crashes SL when i try to listen to it.. everyone else does hear my mix, except me on laptop. any workaround? i thounght that could be network or some fault in icecast settings .. :/

By: Jancis

Jancis — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 10:24:45 +0000

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Workshop: Basic music streaming in Second Life-music — Thu, 06 Mar 2008 03:02:31 +0000

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By: Alex

Alex — Mon, 11 Feb 2008 22:26:34 +0000

Hi bananatree – Most SL clubs have their own hosted streams, so all you need is the stream url, port, and password to connect to. Bigger djs who do a lot of gigs at different clubs will rent their own streams and use that wherever.

By: bananatree

bananatree — Thu, 07 Feb 2008 21:52:04 +0000

Do SL clubs usually take care of the hosting end of things for you? Or is this like bringing your own slips and records to a real club?

By: Looker Lumet

Looker Lumet — Sat, 26 Jan 2008 19:40:58 +0000

Nice explanation Alex, could really help me out in the future!Thanks.

By: Alex Burgess

Alex Burgess — Thu, 24 Jan 2008 13:47:04 +0000

Xax – I think Icecast should interact with the server directly, but I’m not 100% sure. (I’ve been using Nicecast to manage my streams because it allows me to switch between apps.) When I get a chance I’ll see if I can get Traktor interacting directly and let you know what I come up with.